In a nearly two-hour chat with The Skinny Confidential Him & Her podcast, Ivanka makes it abundantly clear where she stands as her dad returns to the Oval Office: “I’ll be in Florida.”

Ivanka Trump called politics a “dark, negative business” while explaining her decision not to return to work in the White House for her father’s second term in office. “I love policy and impact—I hate politics,

Ivanka Trump is no less than an enigma. Much like some of the Trump family members, she likes to keep to herself and rarely makes appearances or speaks candidly in public. But this time around, Ivanka has poured her heart out on a recent episode of a podcast.